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Stewans notes on the Gargoyle-scroll of Shame

Stewan will hand those to anyone asking

The Scroll:http://img502.imageshack.us/img502/3707/scroll3hz7.jpg

P = plant (knubbly thing)
Y = captured (priest)
Z = essence (swung Z)
O = demon (circle) (black dot)
^ = aphelion (vulcan)
LM = mesosteliam (M in L-shape)
^L = perivolcanem (^ in inverse L-shape)
V = ephelion (inverse Volcano)

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Forest Oracle Summoning

Drarich Renian Mage of the tenth circle
According to the Compentium Daemonica by Relvinian in Moonglow Lycaeum
the Daemon is of many sorts and types not all of which seek to bring harm
onto those that seek to bring them forth As Relvinian writes in his work there can be types that serve well and magerly/mannerly(?) when summoned to this realm and bring forth great knowledge to HIM(3) who uttered the call
Here we seek to bring forth a demon of the forest to impart his knowledge
on us for long is the life of tree and plant and all creatures which connect
with them and share such knowledge As is known such daemons are
peaceful of mind and spirit wishing no harm to those that would bring
them forth from their realms

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Directions, Daemons YO
Great Tree P
Middle of All Z


Locate A Place Of Power (Geographica Magicka)
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(Maps) (odd symbols) (aphelion direction[diagonal insert])
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Arrange Circles According To Relvinians Geographica Magicka
O kir kal (circle of call)
kir daemon Y (circle of demon)
P kir arb (circle of plant)
Z kir grav (circle energy)

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(Circle Picture)
^ Aphelion
LM mesosteliam
perivolcanam ^L
ephelion V
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plant P * Y captured * essence Z

(place candle on every spot)
(O Obsidian ^V Blackrock *and V^Pearl)

silk of spider Z LM
ZV^L rich soil P LM ^L
light O ^ ML L^ P ^ V L^ Z ^ LM
P rotten branch L^V
LM ^ Mandrake LM^ LM^ML
bloodmoss V^L
L^V Daemon Bone
Y scales cut from dragon tail ^ML

in order first two together
P kal mani arb kal flam chorp Y kal vas grav Z uus ort in vas shis
(call life bush) (call flame death?) (call great energy) (raise magic
make big ???)

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Reagents:
- Obsidian
- blackrock
- pearl (black or white?)
- spider silk
- rich soil (fertile dirt?)
- light
- mandrake
- rotten branch (shaft, switch?)
- bloodmoss
- demon blood
- dragon scale
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More notes:

-Symbols right beside the map? Black Dot is CoD, but Crown, HillDblCross?
(to map? Directions?) Star?

-Ephelion(V) opposite Aph.? (//\ \\/ !) (- are there LV/VL ? (Not in this spell))
Six (or even eight) points? Additional elements?
common 5, arcane 3, 5+3? 3+3?

-If L^/LM is peri/meso PA, is ^L/ML peri/meso ZE ???

silk of spider Z LM Z V ^L = Circle of Energy, Meso(stel) Pa, Ephelion, Peri(volcan) Ze
rich soil P LM ^L = Circle of Plant, Meso Pa, Peri Ze
light O ^ ML L^ P ^ V L^ Z ^ LM = CoD, Meso Ze Peri Pa;
CoP, Aph, Eph, Peri Pa;
CoE, Aph, Meso Pa
P rotten branch L^ V LM ^ = CoP, Peri Pa, Eph, Meso Pa, Aph
Mandrake LM ^ LM ^ ML = CoP, Meso Pa, Aph, Meso Pa, Aph, Meso Za
L^ V Daemon Bone = CoP, Peri Pa, Eph
Y scales cut from dragon tail ^ ML = CoE, Aph, Meso Ze

O Obsidian ^V Blackrock *and V^Pearl = CoD Obs. Aph, Eph, BR and Pearl Aph, Eph

!!! Can not be correct !!! Meso Pa, Aph twice with Mand !!! What goes where???
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Reagents (UPDATED):
- Obsidian (Piece of) 2
- blackrock 1
- pearl (black or white?) 2
- spider silk 10
- rich soil (fertile dirt) 2-5
- light (candle) 10-20
- mandrake 10
- rotten branch (deadwood) 2
- bloodmoss 10
- demon bone 2-5
- dragon scale (from the tail) 2-5
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P kal mani arb kal flam chorp Y kal vas grav Z uus ort in vas shis
(call life bush) (call flame death?) (call great energy) (raise magic
make big ???)

Could that be healing, fireball/Flamestrike, Lightning, Bless ?
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No, they are no "real" spells;

I think it´s to call the wood spirit (living plant), not sure about the flame-death, and a lot of energy to power the ritual.

Antar suggested that "chis" may actually be "wis", so raise magic (being of) great wisdom
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Tjala: Right then, yer need reagents, handful of each
Stewan Seagull: Which?
Tjala: Some of each, for training

Tjala: So yer need some candles, too
Tjala: bring some extra, if yer too slow the first bunch may burn down
Stewan Seagull: *writes candles*
Stewan Seagull: special wax, colour or somesuch?
Tjala: Nay, just a candle
Tjala: Normal ones, not the reeking kinds they gots when they sit around their
shrines
Stewan Seagull: *nods*

Tjala: Daemon blood, some vials
Tjala: Should be plenty about after them been all over that island
Stewan Seagull: *nods*
Tjala: Runny though, mind you. Not dried.

Tjala: Now, then, go look about that town of yers if yer gots a magic circle
somewhere
Stewan Seagull: any will do?
Tjala: Aye, as long as it be open
Tjala: Not cluttered with stuff or under the bed or something
Stewan Seagull: *chuckles*
Tjala: That will do for a start
Tjala: Get all that and return here tomorrow

Stewan Seagull: *claps book shut*
Stewan Seagull: alright
Stewan Seagull: Thank yer

Tjala: Don't thank me till yer know what yer getting in to
Stewan Seagull: I agree




Tjala´s Teachings:
Tjala: Right then, the Aphelion is always the one closest ter the volcano
Tjala: The two on the opposite side are easy to remember, each point is called "Perivolcan"
Tjala: The one on the right be called "Pa" and the other "Ze"
Tjala: The two remaining ones are Mesostel Pa and Ze

Tjala: Them mages are all big on fancy words
Tjala: If yer know where to put things, aye
Tjala: But i doubts that the mages write scrolls for an oaf that can't be bothered to learn some names

Tjala: Next yer need to know about the elements
Tjala: The fields inside the star aren't important for now
Tjala: Yer want ter know the ones outside the star
Tjala: Aphelion is easy to find, so look at that and take the field opposite of it
Tjala: So the one between me and the lad
Stewan Seagull: fire or water?
Tjala: Its for the fire element
Tjala: Between the lad and the oaf is earth
Tjala: The elf is looking at water
Tjala: the one left of me is air
Tjala: Leaves one, which is for the spirit

Stewan Seagull: this is fire
Tjala: *nods*
Kaelyn: *mutters*
Stewan Seagull: next earth
Stewan Seagull: then water
Stewan Seagull: Air
Stewan Seagull: and finally spirit
Tjala: Wrong
Stewan Seagull: going counterclock?
Tjala: Going against the clock it is fire, earth, water, spirit, air

Tjala: Right, circle magic ain't about big words
Tjala: Its all on where you put yer things
Tjala: Spells each have a set of instructions
Tjala: put this candle here or there
Tjala: that reagent there or whatever


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Hypothetical Sixpointed Star (not taught by Tjala)

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(Compare to original scroll to see what symbols really look like)

//\ = Aphelion
\\/ = Ephelion
|M = Mesothelium Ze (left)
M| = Mesothelium Pa (right)
|^ = Perivolcan Ze
^| = Perivolcan Pa

But what is (compare with original scroll, continued underlining here):
|M ^| = ?
|M //\ = ?
|^ \\/ = ?
//\ M| = ?
|^ \\/| = ? and why do these two have
|\\/ ^| = ? left/right-markers? Ephelion shouldn´t need one?

M = ? why does this one NOT have left/right marker?
|M //\ M| = ? why 3 points?



I really need help with this hopefully someone can come up with ideas for this or any of the other parts of the scroll (top left, bottom left).
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M = ? why does this one NOT have left/right marker?
Maybe that is short for both?

And if its fully underlined then maybe that means the points are connected rather than seperate points?
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*nods to Iljan* Thanks for your contribution. My thoughts were going in the same direction.

But these symbols are there to give us locations on the circle (see pics), so what location would that be?
We know there are the six points of the star, and six fields between the star and the circle.
The lines of the star and the circle are, as far as we know, not used, they are "conduits" of magical energy. Also there is no line between |M and P| in the six-pointed star (yet the symbol is used).

I thought the underlined symbols might mark the fields between the points, but M
and |M //\ M| don´t quite fit in there?
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|M, //\ and M| are the "top" three points of the star, there are two fields between them, but then both M and |M //\ M| would be the same.
It makes sense, but i doubt two sets of symbols, one of them more complicated, would be used for the same two fields (?).
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